I do so agree on sex without a plot is just porn. Now, Erotica does not have to have sex up front but as writers there is the option to have it if you'd like. Lena Matthews is good at using that sometimes and others not. I've done it myself in some of my work. It just truly depends. But there is a continued thin line between Erotica and Romance with a lot of authors nowadays and that can cause some of the issue.
Now, sex sales, that is very true but it doesn't make up for bad writing. I have seen someone throw in some amazingly written love scenes in a novel of sub-par writing and I realized that is what they did to help them...Sad sad sad.
Wow... am I seriously late to this one. I am totally and completely with you on this one. It seems, that there are some authors who write sex scenes and then build a shallow story about it. One such story almost cost me my new Kindle, I caught myself just in the nick of time as I was seconds away from turning it lose on a hurl against the wall. Believe me, quite a few paperbacks suffered that fate, but no no on the Kindles... hahaha.
And it is because of this type of IR writing, that I cannot stop writing until my inherited Alzheimers kicks in... I pray it passes me by, but... hmmm, anyway, I digress.
I remember my history, English and communications teachers all saying, that stories, fiction - should have a "MORAL" a reason for being. A lesson to learn - a depth to explore - an adventure to travel - characters to know, to love, to hate - and a tale for which your reader can relate.
I THOUGHT that was and should be the foundation of all stories. But of late... no no noooo - somebody is not listening to that instruction for a foundation. I mean come one, let's face it... sex is sex. There is only so many ways in which one can describe the act. Yes I know, the NEW trend seems to be going into the extreme, that ULTRA nasty - deviant sex all the way. The moment I see that the story is going that way... I'm done reading. I won't waste my time. Because I'm 49 years old, and I've had sex aplenty and enjoyed the majority of it - I don't need, nor desire going off into reading about things I wouldn't even consider... because I love ME too much to ever even consider in my wildest fantasies of letting any one, or two men use me that way! Therefore reading it happening to another - is out of the question.
I love my sista's... let us rise... let us rise - and if we put a word out in a story, can we say something to help our sisters rise? I'm just saying, let me stop... I always get in trouble with this notion, because few now days wanna hear it.
Very well put! I am an erotic and romance author, though it loathes me to have to separate that. However my novel Assassin's Call was IR paranomal romance that had a good deal of sex but the book was centered AROUND them finding out who was trying to kill them and get him first. The story and the characters are who you fall in love with. the sex is inly a bonus if you have an investment in the characters!
Here here, let our sistas rise
I agree with you. I also agree with others who say it depends on the length. In all my shorter works I only have one sex scene and I generally always reserve them for the end . There will be no after page 2 screwing from me LOL. Longer works that I have in progress will have no more than two. ( That I know of! )
I do control my sex scenes by length, but as an erotica author I do have the option of openning with a sex scene if I wanted...however it does upset me when these stories I read end up being more basically written porn with some other words sprinkling in. It is why I do not always like having the erotica moniker on my name when I'm also a PR writer, and, if you've ever read something by Emma Holly!!, there is a thin line between PR and erotica also :)
Hi. I'm new to the site and the group. I thought this question was interesting.
I truly believe it depends on the genre you are reading. If I pick up an erotica novel or short story, I expect a lot of sex. The whole basis of erotic is the story is propelled forward by the sexual connection between the character. Now...that does not mean it doesn't have to have a storyline.
I writer sexy paranormal romance and erotica short stories. My novels have sex but that is not the catalyst of the story structure. It's just what happens.
I don't expect to pick up a Toni Morrison book and have characters having sex everywhere. But she writes literary fiction. There is also the Sweet Romance and Inspirational Romance genres which you will find no sex at all.
That's the best thing about reading. There is something for everyone out there. We just have to shop in the right isle.