Small Publishers and Independent Authors


Small Publishers and Independent Authors

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Twitter Roll Call! Please share your twitter handle with us!

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Working with a publisher

Started by Jean Wilson Murray. Last reply by Marcia Riley Jul 8, 2015. 1 Reply

I have several books - non-fiction (business for writers) and fiction that I want to publish. I have been thinking about a DIY approach, with the help of an author assistant. Then I ran across a…Continue

Why did you decide to work with a small or independent press?

Started by Stephanie Bird. Last reply by Birdie Newborn Dec 15, 2014. 6 Replies

In this conversation it would be interesting if you also answered any one of the following questions:Did you have an agent or did you represent your own work to these publishers?What is the most…Continue

Tags: literary, agents, publishing, presses, small

Book Clubs

Started by Kayann Short, Ph.D.. Last reply by Michael E. Henderson Jul 29, 2014. 7 Replies

Does anyone have suggestions for connecting with book club or library organizations that recommend books to their member clubs? Can anyone share book club contacts to whom an author or publisher…Continue

Tags: library, organizations, clubs, book

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Comment by Shawn Lamb on March 20, 2012 at 10:10am

No, Karma, my publisher hasn't been of much help since my 1st book was published traditionally. The rest I'm doing, and I have some trusted reviewers I give copies to, but I don't give them out en mass to anyone who wants a copy.

True about Goodreads giveaways being for exposure, which is part of the point. But I don't expect reviews.

Comment by Karma on March 20, 2012 at 9:57am

Shawn, thanks, didn't realize they do giveaways. If you gave away three copies and know your book was exposed to at least 900 people (probably much more, because for everyone who applies there's probably at least one who doesn't) that doesn't seem like too bad a trade-off. Is your publisher providing free review copies?

Comment by Karma on March 20, 2012 at 9:52am

Celine, Kirkus doesn't charge for all reviews, they recently started offering online reviews for books not officially decided to review for the publication. Since almost every book published gets sent to Kirkus, 90% of them get offered this pricey consolation prize. 

I agree with Shawn, it's not worth the money. 

Comment by Catrina Barton on March 20, 2012 at 9:44am

I'm hoping not to have that problem,  considering I've written fanfictions for six years now and already have readers from around the world. I also did a poll asking if they would want to buy a book from me were I to get it published and was astonished how many said absolutely.

Didn't realize I had quite that many die hard readers. So I'm hoping between that, the twitterverse thing, FB Author page {Which I just started since I'm still figuring it out.} and my little teaser promo, that I'll have enough readers that will want to tell their friends.

I also have two die hard readers {one in Germany} who can't wait to get their hands on the WIP I'm fleshing out now.

Comment by Barbara K. Richardson on March 20, 2012 at 8:04am

Julija, I had great success with three different giveaways on Goodreads. I offered five books each time and had over 1,000 people sign up. Goodreads gives you a list of all who enter to win your book. I wrote personal notes to the entrants with the most followers, encouraging them to go to my website where I was doing a pay-it-forward book review giveaway. The five who won books did read and post reviews, as well as more than a dozen readers who came to my website for a free signed copy. The rules were: read and review my book within one week of receiving it, and pass it on to another friend/reader. This generated good vibes and many online reviews. I heard from an experienced (if somewhat cynical) author that readers have to run across a title twenty times before they'll really consider buying it. Goodreads giveaways are one way to get the book noticed by hundreds of readers.

Comment by Shawn Lamb on March 20, 2012 at 6:29am

Yes, Celine, the Kirkus cost is for indie authors and ranges from $425-$575. As for events, I've done the Decatur Book Festival in Decatur, GA for 2 years, Nashville International Book Festival, and various homeschool conventions across GA, TN & OH since 2010. I give workshops about fiction and the current state of publishing. Yes, I do receive invitations to events. Last year I was the only author at the National Bible Bee and Family Discipleship Conference. I write YA allegorical fantasy and Christian historical fiction, but all my book cross markets. I've written several posts about events, planning and engaging.

Comment by Celine Keating on March 20, 2012 at 6:10am

Shawn, I've never heard that Kirkus charges for a review - is that for self-published books? In any case, I'd love to know about your experience w/booths at events - what kinds of events have worked for you and how have you gotten invited to give workshops? That does sound like a great way to build readership.

Comment by Shawn Lamb on March 20, 2012 at 4:25am

I've heard about Kirkus, but when I looked into it, I was shocked to discover it cost $500 for a review! Sorry, but I have better ways to spend $500 then submitting and hoping for a starred review. I can pay for booth at a 3 day event and know I'm going to sell at least 100 copies, give a workshop and gain readers. That is a hefty price tag most indie authors can't afford to risk on a maybe.

Comment by Julija Sukys on March 20, 2012 at 2:12am

I'm very interested in the discussion about Goodreads below. Have others given review copies to readers there with success? I'd like to try. I see that there's some disappointment with the process. 

Comment by Julija Sukys on March 20, 2012 at 1:48am

Of the publishing industry’s four major trade (the other three includeKirkus, Booklist, and Library Journal) magazines, Adelle Waldman writes at Slate that “Publishers Weekly, or PW, is the biggie—it plays Coke to Kirkus‘ Pepsi.” A “'starred’ review in PW still increases a book’s chance of getting media coverage and showi... These also determine which books Amazon promotes. A starred review indicates a book of outstanding quality.

Imagine my pleasure when I came across a starred review of my book. 


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